Outlaw 275 vs 28x10.5 - True Street 275 at Piedmont Dragway 2013 - Rules Inside

***72chevy2*** · 01-17-2013, 02:16 PM

www.piedmontdragway.com

More details to come as we finalize sponsorships and payout structures.

Looking forward to an exciting year of Heads Up racing!

Dates for the race Sept 14 during the PTRA event.

Piedmont Dragway
Outlaw 275 vs 28x10.5

No Chassis Cars
No Wheelie Bars
28x10.5 (No W) or any 275 Drag Radial

Piedmont Dragway
True Street 275

BODY & GLASS:
Must run Piedmont Dragway 275 logo on car for points only
Must have working: Headlights, Taillights, stock appearing interior (carpet, door panels, factory
"type" dash), stock floor pans, stock firewall
Single seat OK
Lexan Windows permitted - Must be neat in appearance.
Forward facing hood scoops and rear wings OK
Fiberglass is OK anywhere on the vehicle as long as it’s neat in appearance and the vehicle makes weight

SUSPENSION:
No wheelie bars or 4 link suspension.
Must have stock type suspension with factory frame rail or ladder bar with factory frame rail Notched frame rails are OK
Coil Over Shocks and Anti-Roll OK

SAFETY EQUIPMENT:
Current safety harness( 3 years) required
Engine Diaper Highly Recommended
On board Fire System Highly Recommended

TIRES:
-Maximum rear tire size allowed is 275/60-15 designation or 28x12.50 ET Street Type Tire.
Tire must be used as intended from manufacturer.
No alterations permitted.

Race front runners are highly recommended.

POWER ADDERS:

Single type power adder only.

NOS:
No multi stages.
If your car has a 2nd kit for racing other classes it must be fully capped off at solenoids and lines. If not you will not race no exceptions.
NO splitting of foggers or controlling NOS flow electronically in any way. Must use WOT or toggle switch.
Only an arm switch, wide open throttle switch, rpm switch and timer should be in system and all wiring needs to be separate from main harness.
Nitrous solenoid grounds must be grounded to intake at carb stud or on firewall on a stud. Nowhere else allowed.
1 NOS bottle in car.
No foggers on BB !
Double Cross bar plates allowed.
Small Block

1 Jet .090
2 Jets .064
4 Jets .045
8 Jets .032

Big block

1 Jet .080
2 Jets .058

Max .090 jet on plate and max .032 on fogger
NOS BB max .080 jet on single spray bar plate
NOS BB max .058 jets on double cross bar plate

FORCED INDUCTION:

No billet wheels allowed
Max turbo size 76mm measured tip to tip (NO reducers or clipped wheels)
Max S/C sizes: D1, V-7 JT, NOVI 2000, KB 3.6
No Boosted BB engines
Air to air intercooler OR water meth injection allowed (may not use both together)
Air to water allowed with weight penalty (see weights for description)
All manual boost controllers must be very visible as to where we can trace the line all the way to the waste gate. Example: Simple install on hose from boost reference to controller then one hose to waste gate/blow off.
NO CO2 Spray Bars for cooling Air to Air Intercoolers.

EXHAUST:
Must have mufflers on all entries except turbo cars.

CYLINDER HEAD / ENGINE INDUCTION:

Maximum CID limit : SB 440 / BB 560 with stock deck height.
4150 Carbs only ( NO SV1 CARBS ALLOWED "WITH POWER ADDER" )
Small Block Cylinder Heads limited to: 23 degree Chevrolet, 18 degree Mopar, 20 degree Ford, Stock Ford casting Modular and 15 degree LS. No Raised Runner Cylinder Heads

TFS Twisted Wedge, TFS-R and TFS LS heads are permitted with a 50lb penalty

BB heads are conventional style only with factory valve angles and factory style aluminum intake manifolds.
Allowed BBF heads : CJ, P-51, SCJ
BBC : NO Head Hunters, Profilers, Big Duke, or Big Chief style.
All Heads must be of a factory degree and valve angle. Bowtie style, Dart, etc. are allowed.

Buick, Pontiac, Olds combos can run at SB weight (NOS or N/A only)

No sheet metal intakes.
No dry sump oil systems.
No clutchless type transmissions.

FUEL:
Any Gasoline – E85 OK

ELECTRONICS:
Ignition boxes limited to standard type 6 series only.
No slew, no traction control, no boost or pneumatic controllers, no NOS controller or management systems.
MSD 6530 permitted on all combos.
Add on boost reference timing retard boxes allowed.
One Digi-set allowed on plate only.
Piggy back ok .
Stand alone EFI, FAST or BS3 ok
Air or Electric Shifter allowed

WEIGHT:
4cyl - Turbo, NOS, or S/C - 2800
V6 – NOS - 2950
SB N/A - 2750
SB NOS - 8.2 deck 3000
SB NOS - 3150 (see NOS for allowed combos)
SB & 6cyl boosted 3200 ( see forced induction for allowed combos)
BB N/A - 2950
BB NOS - 3250 (no foggers)
Deduct 50lbs for 70mm and smaller turbo or S/C listed in forced induction.
Deduct 50lbs non intercooled
Add 100lbs for A/W intercooler

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
SFI -5 multi-layer jacket and pants, neck restraint, gloves, shoes and approved helmet required.

*Race Procedures
Please read carefully !!!!

ALL CARS MUST BE DRIVEN TO THE LANES.
All cars must drive or tow across scales after each round qualifying and after each round won.
If car broke during round won then tow across scales if you plan to fix car by next round.
Once a racer takes the tree in qualifying they are counted in the ladder and may not get an entree refund.
Rules are subject to change to equalize the competition if any combination shows to have an definite advantage.
Weather and time permitting, there will be 2 qualifying sessions. The quickest time will be the official qualifying time. Racers will be paired accordingly. Driver with the quicker E.T. in the previous round during eliminations will have lane choice.
If a race ends for any reason during a round of competition no points will be given for that unfinished round.
Any minor intentional or unintentional rule infraction that does not cause a definite advantage will result in loss of any points and winnings achieved while in violation.
Any intentional rule infraction done to gain advantage over the competition will result in SUSPENSION FROM PIEDMONT DRAGWAY.
All drivers must be ready when called to the burnout box and must pull into his lane immediately when motioned up by an official or he will lose that round.
Treat the other driver the way you want to be treated.
If you have a problem with another driver or team, take it up with an official (in a civil manner) not the other driver or team.
Piedmont Dragway has the right to inspect vehicles and support vehicles at any time for rule violations. This includes tear downs and/or PNG engine measurements. Refusal to allow an inspection or tear down will be considered the same as a performance rule violation and will require the same penalty.
If a competitor believes another competitor in the same class is in violation of a rule he or she may protest that racer for further inspection. The racer making the claim must specify the violation to be checked for. If the inspection requires a teardown of any part of the competitors car, claimant must put up a $500 protest bond. If the racer is found guilty of that rule violation, the claimant will get his protest money back. If the racer is found innocent the racer gets $400 for the unnecessary teardown and Piedmont Dragway will get $100 for tech fees.

SLOW88LX · 01-17-2013, 03:06 PM

Nice! I guess this will follow PTRA True street rules that Jr. Hampton posted?

Looking forward to this season and a couple .073 jets!!!

turbotbirds · 01-17-2013, 04:14 PM

Nice!

turbo4vgt · 01-17-2013, 07:51 PM

Nice!

ultimatelenny · 01-18-2013, 07:31 AM

Sounds great. Piedmont is a great place to attend a race. This series should be a hit!

Jr.Hampton · 01-18-2013, 06:44 PM

I've been meaning to do this for a few weeks. Working 6 days a week hasn't helped get this done. But here goes.

I've done some more research on the Nitrous Jet rules. Below will be the Jet rules to start the 2013 season. This should help even out all combos and keep the playing field level. We will adjust if it's deemed one combo has a clear cut advantage.

Small Block

1 Jet .090
2 Jets .064
4 Jets .045
8 Jets .032

Big block

1 Jet .080
2 Jets .058

Also, Raised runner heads are still prohibited.

If anyone has any questions, plese feel free to give me a call @ 704-302-7991 AFTER 6:00 PM.

Thanks

dentfix · 01-18-2013, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jr.Hampton

I've been meaning to do this for a few weeks. Working 6 days a week hasn't helped get this done. But here goes.

I've done some more research on the Nitrous Jet rules. Below will be the Jet rules to start the 2013 season. This should help even out all combos and keep the playing field level. We will adjust if it's deemed one combo has a clear cut advantage.

Small Block

1 Jet .090
2 Jets .064
4 Jets .045
8 Jets .032

Big block

1 Jet .080
2 Jets .058

Also, Raised runner heads are still prohibited.

If anyone has any questions, plese feel free to give me a call @ 704-302-7991 AFTER 6:00 PM.

Thanks

Looks good Jr. Should be some really close racing.

U2SLW5.0 · 01-19-2013, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jr.Hampton

I've been meaning to do this for a few weeks. Working 6 days a week hasn't helped get this done. But here goes.

I've done some more research on the Nitrous Jet rules. Below will be the Jet rules to start the 2013 season. This should help even out all combos and keep the playing field level. We will adjust if it's deemed one combo has a clear cut advantage.

Small Block

1 Jet .090
2 Jets .064
4 Jets .045
8 Jets .032

Big block

1 Jet .080
2 Jets .058

Also, Raised runner heads are still prohibited.

If anyone has any questions, plese feel free to give me a call @ 704-302-7991 AFTER 6:00 PM.

Thanks

Thats alot better

Fox Rodder · 01-19-2013, 07:37 PM

Looks much better! I got to finish this 66 project then Ill be ready.

AllMotor85 · 01-19-2013, 08:28 PM

Drove mine up the road today.. Still sounds good..haha

SLOW88LX · 01-20-2013, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllMotor85

Drove mine up the road today.. Still sounds good..haha

Good! Go ahead and jet it up and get ready to do some testing!

NSTIGATR · 01-29-2013, 04:39 PM

Well not sure when the car is gonna be ready so for now ill be takin pics. Can't wait.

***wht01stroke*** · 01-29-2013, 05:40 PM

Looks good Wil hopefully my little junk will be competitive this year

***72chevy2*** · 02-12-2013, 11:20 PM

Bump for tomorrow morning.

Rules posted in first post

Please email me with any questions: will.kaluta@gmail.com

cold85 · 02-14-2013, 08:09 AM

Anyone want to loan me a billet 98? I will split any winnings

mr mopar · 02-14-2013, 01:41 PM

101mm 3150#- 106mm 3350# Thats alot of weight for 5mm of turbo. And 5" bore motors at 3200 and f3r small block is 3100. All of these combos have about the same power potential and should be a little closer together IMO.

JBBBSTANG · 02-14-2013, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr mopar

101mm 3150#- 106mm 3350# Thats alot of weight for 5mm of turbo. And 5" bore motors at 3200 and f3r small block is 3100. All of these combos have about the same power potential and should be a little closer together IMO.

Actually i think you've done a good job and looks like a this year will be some close racing !!!! IMO...lmfao!!!

mr mopar · 02-14-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBBSTANG

Actually i think you've done a good job and looks like a this year will be some close racing !!!! IMO...lmfao!!!

I know you like the rules Jimmy your vette would only be 3025lbs and a smallblock with a 106 is 325 lbs more. It don't make that much more power, 150 lbs I can see but not over 300. I respect your opinion and you have been doing this a long time, but thats just how I see it.

moneypit · 02-15-2013, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold85

Anyone want to loan me a billet 98? I will split any winnings

I will loan u one of my 15 lb bottles !

cold85 · 02-15-2013, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneypit

I will loan u one of my 15 lb bottles !

Just buy me the 98 u got the money. And if u don't want to maybe jimmy can buy me one

Kmullins · 02-27-2013, 11:02 PM

Is 521ci a big block?

***fbodyjunkie06*** · 03-04-2013, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kmullins

Is 521ci a big block?

Uh oh...reduced 94's on 275's! Should be a terror! Now if Piedmont's track prep could only hold a 4.38-4.40 pass......

***72chevy2*** · 03-04-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kmullins

Is 521ci a big block?

Ya'll gonna have the red car ready for some racing?

Good job down in Ga btw. Looked good out there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodyjunkie06

Uh oh...reduced 94's on 275's! Should be a terror! Now if Piedmont's track prep could only hold a 4.38-4.40 pass......

Ya'll got anything coming together to come run this year?

NSTIGATR · 03-05-2013, 07:04 PM

Is it April yet???

**HITMAN** · 03-18-2013, 06:54 AM

What fire systems are most of you guys using? I am ordering one soon but not sure what to get

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01-17-2013, 02:16 PM	#1
*72chevy2* Running Wide Open Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake used to be Forest Posts: 8,490	Outlaw 275 vs 28x10.5 - True Street 275 at Piedmont Dragway 2013 - Rules Inside www.piedmontdragway.com More details to come as we finalize sponsorships and payout structures. Looking forward to an exciting year of Heads Up racing! Dates for the race Sept 14 during the PTRA event. Piedmont Dragway Outlaw 275 vs 28x10.5 No Chassis Cars No Wheelie Bars 28x10.5 (No W) or any 275 Drag Radial Piedmont Dragway True Street 275 BODY & GLASS: Must run Piedmont Dragway 275 logo on car for points only Must have working: Headlights, Taillights, stock appearing interior (carpet, door panels, factory "type" dash), stock floor pans, stock firewall Single seat OK Lexan Windows permitted - Must be neat in appearance. Forward facing hood scoops and rear wings OK Fiberglass is OK anywhere on the vehicle as long as it’s neat in appearance and the vehicle makes weight SUSPENSION: No wheelie bars or 4 link suspension. Must have stock type suspension with factory frame rail or ladder bar with factory frame rail Notched frame rails are OK Coil Over Shocks and Anti-Roll OK SAFETY EQUIPMENT: Current safety harness( 3 years) required Engine Diaper Highly Recommended On board Fire System Highly Recommended TIRES: -Maximum rear tire size allowed is 275/60-15 designation or 28x12.50 ET Street Type Tire. Tire must be used as intended from manufacturer. No alterations permitted. Race front runners are highly recommended. POWER ADDERS: Single type power adder only. NOS: No multi stages. If your car has a 2nd kit for racing other classes it must be fully capped off at solenoids and lines. If not you will not race no exceptions. NO splitting of foggers or controlling NOS flow electronically in any way. Must use WOT or toggle switch. Only an arm switch, wide open throttle switch, rpm switch and timer should be in system and all wiring needs to be separate from main harness. Nitrous solenoid grounds must be grounded to intake at carb stud or on firewall on a stud. Nowhere else allowed. 1 NOS bottle in car. No foggers on BB ! Double Cross bar plates allowed. Small Block 1 Jet .090 2 Jets .064 4 Jets .045 8 Jets .032 Big block 1 Jet .080 2 Jets .058 Max .090 jet on plate and max .032 on fogger NOS BB max .080 jet on single spray bar plate NOS BB max .058 jets on double cross bar plate FORCED INDUCTION: No billet wheels allowed Max turbo size 76mm measured tip to tip (NO reducers or clipped wheels) Max S/C sizes: D1, V-7 JT, NOVI 2000, KB 3.6 No Boosted BB engines Air to air intercooler OR water meth injection allowed (may not use both together) Air to water allowed with weight penalty (see weights for description) All manual boost controllers must be very visible as to where we can trace the line all the way to the waste gate. Example: Simple install on hose from boost reference to controller then one hose to waste gate/blow off. NO CO2 Spray Bars for cooling Air to Air Intercoolers. EXHAUST: Must have mufflers on all entries except turbo cars. CYLINDER HEAD / ENGINE INDUCTION: Maximum CID limit : SB 440 / BB 560 with stock deck height. 4150 Carbs only ( NO SV1 CARBS ALLOWED "WITH POWER ADDER" ) Small Block Cylinder Heads limited to: 23 degree Chevrolet, 18 degree Mopar, 20 degree Ford, Stock Ford casting Modular and 15 degree LS. No Raised Runner Cylinder Heads TFS Twisted Wedge, TFS-R and TFS LS heads are permitted with a 50lb penalty BB heads are conventional style only with factory valve angles and factory style aluminum intake manifolds. Allowed BBF heads : CJ, P-51, SCJ BBC : NO Head Hunters, Profilers, Big Duke, or Big Chief style. All Heads must be of a factory degree and valve angle. Bowtie style, Dart, etc. are allowed. Buick, Pontiac, Olds combos can run at SB weight (NOS or N/A only) No sheet metal intakes. No dry sump oil systems. No clutchless type transmissions. FUEL: Any Gasoline – E85 OK ELECTRONICS: Ignition boxes limited to standard type 6 series only. No slew, no traction control, no boost or pneumatic controllers, no NOS controller or management systems. MSD 6530 permitted on all combos. Add on boost reference timing retard boxes allowed. One Digi-set allowed on plate only. Piggy back ok . Stand alone EFI, FAST or BS3 ok Air or Electric Shifter allowed WEIGHT: 4cyl - Turbo, NOS, or S/C - 2800 V6 – NOS - 2950 SB N/A - 2750 SB NOS - 8.2 deck 3000 SB NOS - 3150 (see NOS for allowed combos) SB & 6cyl boosted 3200 ( see forced induction for allowed combos) BB N/A - 2950 BB NOS - 3250 (no foggers) Deduct 50lbs for 70mm and smaller turbo or S/C listed in forced induction. Deduct 50lbs non intercooled Add 100lbs for A/W intercooler PROTECTIVE CLOTHING SFI -5 multi-layer jacket and pants, neck restraint, gloves, shoes and approved helmet required. Race Procedures Please read carefully !!!! ALL CARS MUST BE DRIVEN TO THE LANES. All cars must drive or tow across scales after each round qualifying and after each round won. If car broke during round won then tow across scales if you plan to fix car by next round. Once a racer takes the tree in qualifying they are counted in the ladder and may not get an entree refund. Rules are subject to change to equalize the competition if any combination shows to have an definite advantage. Weather and time permitting, there will be 2 qualifying sessions. The quickest time will be the official qualifying time. Racers will be paired accordingly. Driver with the quicker E.T. in the previous round during eliminations will have lane choice. If a race ends for any reason during a round of competition no points will be given for that unfinished round. Any minor intentional or unintentional rule infraction that does not cause a definite advantage will result in loss of any points and winnings achieved while in violation. Any intentional rule infraction done to gain advantage over the competition will result in SUSPENSION FROM PIEDMONT DRAGWAY. All drivers must be ready when called to the burnout box and must pull into his lane immediately when motioned up by an official or he will lose that round. Treat the other driver the way you want to be treated. If you have a problem with another driver or team, take it up with an official (in a civil manner) not the other driver or team. Piedmont Dragway has the right to inspect vehicles and support vehicles at any time for rule violations. This includes tear downs and/or PNG engine measurements. Refusal to allow an inspection or tear down will be considered the same as a performance rule violation and will require the same penalty. If a competitor believes another competitor in the same class is in violation of a rule he or she may protest that racer for further inspection. The racer making the claim must specify the violation to be checked for. If the inspection requires a teardown of any part of the competitors car, claimant must put up a $500 protest bond. If the racer is found guilty of that rule violation, the claimant will get his protest money back. If the racer is found innocent the racer gets $400 for the unnecessary teardown and Piedmont Dragway will get $100 for tech fees. Last edited by 72chevy2; 08-06-2013 at 07:13 AM..*

01-17-2013, 03:06 PM	#2
SLOW88LX still slow! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pikeville Posts: 2,702	Nice! I guess this will follow PTRA True street rules that Jr. Hampton posted? Looking forward to this season and a couple .073 jets!!! __________________

01-17-2013, 04:14 PM	#3
turbotbirds Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clayton Posts: 1,847	Nice! __________________ SBC S476 275DR E85 Blowthru LJMS Forced Inductions FEAR THE EAR

01-17-2013, 07:51 PM	#4
turbo4vgt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kannapolis NC Posts: 499	Nice! __________________ Build progress........slow

01-18-2013, 06:44 PM	#6
Jr.Hampton Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mooresville Posts: 203	I've been meaning to do this for a few weeks. Working 6 days a week hasn't helped get this done. But here goes. I've done some more research on the Nitrous Jet rules. Below will be the Jet rules to start the 2013 season. This should help even out all combos and keep the playing field level. We will adjust if it's deemed one combo has a clear cut advantage. Small Block 1 Jet .090 2 Jets .064 4 Jets .045 8 Jets .032 Big block 1 Jet .080 2 Jets .058 Also, Raised runner heads are still prohibited. If anyone has any questions, plese feel free to give me a call @ 704-302-7991 AFTER 6:00 PM. Thanks Last edited by Jr.Hampton; 01-18-2013 at 06:48 PM..

01-18-2013, 07:31 AM	#5
ultimatelenny UCC Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Cornelius, NC Posts: 49	Sounds great. Piedmont is a great place to attend a race. This series should be a hit!

01-19-2013, 07:37 PM	#9
Fox Rodder built not bought Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brown summit N.C Posts: 1,907	Looks much better! I got to finish this 66 project then Ill be ready. __________________ 5.16 @ 134.8 1.17 60ft PTRA TS275 ET record A2W & MO BOOST coming sooner maybe later

01-19-2013, 08:28 PM	#10
AllMotor85 TurboNoMo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goldsboro Posts: 5,459	Drove mine up the road today.. Still sounds good..haha

01-29-2013, 04:39 PM	#12
NSTIGATR Glide and two stages... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the Bahamas, nc Posts: 4,812	Well not sure when the car is gonna be ready so for now ill be takin pics. Can't wait. __________________ Peace, through superior firepower. Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true. You project strength to avoid conflict.

01-29-2013, 05:40 PM	#13
*wht01stroke* In the shop Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Siler City Posts: 819	Looks good Wil hopefully my little junk will be competitive this year __________________ MacFab Beadlocks Marsh Auto Parts Inc SD fabrication

02-12-2013, 11:20 PM	#14
*72chevy2* Running Wide Open Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wake used to be Forest Posts: 8,490	Bump for tomorrow morning. Rules posted in first post Please email me with any questions: will.kaluta@gmail.com

02-14-2013, 08:09 AM	#15
cold85 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: asheboro nc Posts: 1,671	Anyone want to loan me a billet 98? I will split any winnings __________________ 4.65@155 x275 and falling

02-14-2013, 01:41 PM	#16
mr mopar Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sanford Posts: 1,109	101mm 3150#- 106mm 3350# Thats alot of weight for 5mm of turbo. And 5" bore motors at 3200 and f3r small block is 3100. All of these combos have about the same power potential and should be a little closer together IMO.

02-27-2013, 11:02 PM	#21
Kmullins THEbaddestsmallblokaround Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: High Point Posts: 841	Is 521ci a big block? __________________ "BTW this is THE KEVIN MULLINS people hes a famous racer he dun kick tail down yonder in georgia hes a bad man with a purty red car and a hot wife and a cute dog and a lil red wagon" 4.110@194.8 *Loflin-Fabrication* bigstuff 3 Protorque

03-05-2013, 07:04 PM	#24
NSTIGATR Glide and two stages... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the Bahamas, nc Posts: 4,812	Is it April yet??? __________________ Peace, through superior firepower. Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true. You project strength to avoid conflict.

03-18-2013, 06:54 AM	#25
HITMAN Cause racecar Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 3,743	What fire systems are most of you guys using? I am ordering one soon but not sure what to get Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

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