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Old 11-13-2012, 01:14 PM   #51
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Why don't you tell us how much his heads flow now Dent?
Less than 390 like the 255 tea high ports, bet on that. He sent me the link to who ported his heads and they advertised 330-340 for there victor jr program.
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Lets try to keep this a helpfull and factual discussion aimed at a solution for rs if possible
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Honestly I think a fair alternative (like that matters) is to get rid of the jet limit and limit the solenoid instead. Get rid of the trashcans and limit them to a single .125 regular solenoid and allow progressives and boost control. It would make tech a breeze. You could just check the solenoids ever so often and seal them.
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Honestly I think a fair alternative (like that matters) is to get rid of the jet limit and limit the solenoid instead. Get rid of the trashcans and limit them to a single .125 regular solenoid and allow progressives and boost control. It would make tech a breeze. You could just check the solenoids ever so often and seal them.
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Honestly I think a fair alternative (like that matters) is to get rid of the jet limit and limit the solenoid instead. Get rid of the trashcans and limit them to a single .125 regular solenoid and allow progressives and boost control. It would make tech a breeze. You could just check the solenoids ever so often and seal them.
What does that equate to? 150 more hp and a progressive? The boost controller is worth nothing in et.
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Its legal for the class isnt it? Thats all that matters.
No it's not legal for RS or prolly due to his tire, Ultra either. Think of the electronics on that ride, or Kenwards......electronics galore, but Kenward was on an old Mickey....I'm sure Vinny was not.
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Honestly I think a fair alternative (like that matters) is to get rid of the jet limit and limit the solenoid instead. Get rid of the trashcans and limit them to a single .125 regular solenoid and allow progressives and boost control. It would make tech a breeze. You could just check the solenoids ever so often and seal them.
What kinda gain would honestly be expected? Also would you be going to limit the plates single spray like was the original intention or keep double spray bar
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No it's not legal for RS or prolly due to his tire, Ultra either. Think of the electronics on that ride, or Kenwards......electronics galore, but Kenward was on an old Mickey....I'm sure Vinny was not.
Im sure he had a progressive but his engine is rs legal. I think kots allows the 7 series boxes already. He wouldnt need a progressive with a 26 jet anyways.
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Where on the racetrack was matt gonna pick up over a tenth? Was he gonna go a 1.10 60'? Are you guys trying to say a nitrous car needs 300hp to pick up from a .36 to a .27? Martin already said they could do it under current rules. I bet the black ghost can as well as darins new motor pete just finished.
Easy now Shannon, I don't want to get dragged into you and Chuck's pissing match lol. We went 5.44@133 with a 1.25 60'(IIRC) and a 3.5x 330'. Our converter is tight as a clam's pussy and the pass the trans ate the input shaft at Civil Wars was a 1.21 60'. If I can ever talk Jonathan out of running those old Comp Engineering 3 ways in the back and QA1's single adjustable shocks up front we just might crack the 1.19 mark. It had a 5.38-5.39 in it at spring Civil Wars it just wasn't in the cards that day. Next year is a whole new ball game though. A lot of guys have really stepped it up yourself included so we really have to work hard. It ain't going to come easy that's for sure.
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No shocker but I dont agree with that theory.
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And just for the sake of car count maybe allow proggresive and boost controllers
And 28-10.5 just an idea like the dr race.
Jason I like the idea of the turbo staying the same, but don't like the 28x10.5 tire. You know just as well as I do that you're leaving on everything you got just about and so are the nitrous guys, so either of the controllers aren't going to do any good except at a track like Rockingham Saturday.
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Honestly I think a fair alternative (like that matters) is to get rid of the jet limit and limit the solenoid instead. Get rid of the trashcans and limit them to a single .125 regular solenoid and allow progressives and boost control. It would make tech a breeze. You could just check the solenoids ever so often and seal them.
More I read this, the more I like it.
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What kinda gain would honestly be expected? Also would you be going to limit the plates single spray like was the original intention or keep double spray bar
I'm guessing Kevin was running a trash can on his 20s passes so it might slow him a little. You might would need to limit to a .110 solenoid if the turbo cars don't plan on picking up any but I have a feeling they ain't planning on stopping at 5.27.
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Easy now Shannon, I don't want to get dragged into you and Chuck's pissing match lol. We went 5.44@133 with a 1.25 60'(IIRC) and a 3.5x 330'. Our converter is tight as a clam's pussy and the pass the trans ate the input shaft at Civil Wars was a 1.21 60'. If I can ever talk Jonathan out of running those old Comp Engineering 3 ways in the back and QA1's single adjustable shocks up front we just might crack the 1.19 mark. It had a 5.38-5.39 in it at spring Civil Wars it just wasn't in the cards that day. Next year is a whole new ball game though. A lot of guys have really stepped it up yourself included so we really have to work hard. It ain't going to come easy that's for sure.

Jason I like the idea of the turbo staying the same, but don't like the 28x10.5 tire. You know just as well as I do that you're leaving on everything you got just about and so are the nitrous guys, so either of the controllers aren't going to do any good except at a track like Rockingham Saturday.

Amen!

More I read this, the more I like it.
The controllers were only added to make it easier to attract more cars and like stated wont help either side go faster. Same thing with the slicks more cars more options for everyone. The class would get huge!
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That stuff you got. Lets see how much faster it is though.
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