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Old 11-13-2012, 11:23 AM   #26
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I guess unlimited jet at 2850 it is then
Edit: didn't the guy in the video go 4.86 like that?
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:24 AM   #27
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Chuck what would it take to make you feel the rules are fair in rs275?
Not that it matters but I would say do away with foggers, take away the jet limit and allow progressives and boost control. The nitrous cars would be running the same rules as Ultra but with 150 extra pounds.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #28
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I am not sure exactly what it would take for a nitrous car to run a mid 20. The only comparison I have is one of my Street Race cars had a high port sbf in it last year and it ran teens and twenties all year long. It was at 2850 with a slick. He told me it either had 44's or 48 jets in it. That was with no progressive.
Wow seems a bit much. I think yall need to look at some different examples.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:55 AM   #30
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I am not sure exactly what it would take for a nitrous car to run a mid 20. The only comparison I have is one of my Street Race cars had a high port sbf in it last year and it ran teens and twenties all year long. It was at 2850 with a slick. He told me it either had 44's or 48 jets in it. That was with no progressive.

Ill say this it takes me a pair of 83s to go 5.25 at 133 at 3150 with a progressive and a 1.20 60ft.

But i guess i fall in the group of junk thrown together no real thought put into it.
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holcombford is actually making some sense.holcombford is actually making some sense.
It had 42 jets in it. He says it was not split. But anyway that is something for comparison
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I guess unlimited jet at 2850 it is then
Edit: didn't the guy in the video go 4.86 like that?
I guess you missed the part where Vader went a 76 beside him at only 147mph (with a borrowed untested motor first time out). I would have bet my whole car Matt could have went up there and went low teens just like he sat this summer.
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holcombford is actually making some sense.holcombford is actually making some sense.
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Ill say this it takes me a pair of 83s to go 5.25 at 133 at 3150 with a progressive and a 1.20 60ft.

But i guess i fall in the group of junk thrown together no real thought put into it.
Me and Dale Handy were talking about your car and using your numbers that you ran in sgmp for comparison.
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Ill say this it takes me a pair of 83s to go 5.25 at 133 at 3150 with a progressive and a 1.20 60ft.

But i guess i fall in the group of junk thrown together no real thought put into it.
Now see I told you guys Dent was right. All you need to do is pick up 200-250 hp on motor and you will be up front under R/S rules! What's your problem Kevin?
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Ill say this it takes me a pair of 83s to go 5.25 at 133 at 3150 with a progressive and a 1.20 60ft.

But i guess i fall in the group of junk thrown together no real thought put into it.
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I guess you missed the part where Vader went a 76 beside him at only 147mph (with a borrowed untested motor first time out). I would have bet my whole car Matt could have went up there and went low teens just like he sat this summer.
Where on the racetrack was matt gonna pick up over a tenth? Was he gonna go a 1.10 60'? Are you guys trying to say a nitrous car needs 300hp to pick up from a .36 to a .27? Martin already said they could do it under current rules. I bet the black ghost can as well as darins new motor pete just finished.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:26 PM   #37
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Ill say this it takes me a pair of 83s to go 5.25 at 133 at 3150 with a progressive and a 1.20 60ft.

But i guess i fall in the group of junk thrown together no real thought put into it.
So what your saying is a pair of 83's will go teens if you get after it early even on your motor?
What will haplen with ticks motor with a pair of 110's and a 1.14 60' with a progressive then? Thats what chuck is proposing.
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So what your saying is a pair of 83's will go teens if you get after it early even on your motor?
What will haplen with ticks motor with a pair of 110's and a 1.14 60' with a progressive then? Thats what chuck is proposing.

Well I guess he would just crush the Ultra Street record! Do you have any idea how much nitrous that is to pass through a plate? You realize that a single .082 is what R/S permits now right? A single .082 is 225-250 so you do the math.

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what about a single spray bar and unlimited jet?

no progressive no boost controllers
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Not that it matters but I would say do away with foggers, take away the jet limit and allow progressives and boost control. The nitrous cars would be running the same rules as Ultra but with 150 extra pounds.
No shocker but I dont agree with that theory.
How about leave the fogger and plate jets the same
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And just for the sake of car count maybe allow proggresive and boost controllers
And 28-10.5 just an idea like the dr race.
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So what your saying is a pair of 83's will go teens if you get after it early even on your motor?
What will haplen with ticks motor with a pair of 110's and a 1.14 60' with a progressive then? Thats what chuck is proposing.
You got me dent I spent 1000 bucks to go to SGMP to lay low to get the rules changed for RS in 2013.

Then to back it up I did the same last weekend at Carolina at 3000 just in case anyone was watching.

Buy wait also went 5.25 at 133 at mooresville on the pros at 3150.
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You got me dent I spent 1000 bucks to go to SGMP to lay low to get the rules changed for RS in 2013.

Then to back it up I did the same last weekend at Carolina at 3000 just in case anyone was watching.

Buy wait also went 5.25 at 133 at mooresville on the pros at 3150.
What could you run with 50 more cfm of heads flow? Wouldnt that same 50 cfm allow the motor to ingest more nitrous? How about the heads and the extra nitrous they would allow you to spray? Probably be lucky to run with the rs turbo cars right
Id be willing to say with the same 255 highports vinny has you could go low .20's in rs trim now the way your car works.
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Well I guess he would just crush the Ultra Street record! Do you have any idea how much nitrous that is to pass through a plate? You realize that a single .082 is what R/S permits now right? A single .082 is 225-250 so you do the math.
I hear there are plates out there that will spray 600, aren't you a nitrous guy? You should know these things.
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What could you run with 50 more cfm of heads flow? Wouldnt that same 50 cfm allow the motor to ingest more nitrous? How about the heads and the extra nitrous they would allow you to spray? Probably be lucky to run with the rs turbo cars right
Id be willing to say with the same 255 highports vinny has you could go low .20's in rs trim now the way your car works.
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I hear there are plates out there that will spray 600, aren't you a nitrous guy? You should know these things.
Really? Wow I had no idea! Wait a minute, what does that have to do with how much nitrous those jets pass?

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So how much will you pick up, if you switch from the twisted wedge to the 240 high port?
None. All the turbo cars are maxed out.
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What could you run with 50 more cfm of heads flow? Wouldnt that same 50 cfm allow the motor to ingest more nitrous? How about the heads and the extra nitrous they would allow you to spray? Probably be lucky to run with the rs turbo cars right
Id be willing to say with the same 255 highports vinny has you could go low .20's in rs trim now the way your car works.
Why don't you tell us how much his heads flow now Dent?
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You got me dent I spent 1000 bucks to go to SGMP to lay low to get the rules changed for RS in 2013.

Then to back it up I did the same last weekend at Carolina at 3000 just in case anyone was watching.

Buy wait also went 5.25 at 133 at mooresville on the pros at 3150.
We all no you have a ET limiting device on your car. Unhook it and let her eat.
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So how much will you pick up, if you switch from the twisted wedge to the 240 high port?
Itll probably be slower, the twisted wedges are obviously better thats why they carry 50lbs. Right chuck
I doubt it will pick up any but it might hold a gasket better. There are already better heads on other turbo cars and they aint any faster than mine
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