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Old 11-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #126
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Yeah that's what I thought.
Sure you can get a break for the blow through when you put it on gasoline and earn your non intercooled break and nitrous cars get what they need to go a 19 in 2013.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:27 PM   #127
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Dent, not to bust your bouble but I went 5.30 saturday With a 1.269 60. Give me your sixtey, shift 200 rpms more & you will get a pay up succa phone call.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:37 PM   #128
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:47 PM   #129
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How about leave the fogger and plate jets the same
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Turbo stay the same
And just for the sake of car count maybe allow proggresive and boost controllers
And 28-10.5 just an idea like the dr race.
no need for progressive when us NOS can leave at 100%
no need for slick when you have a radial & your car works.

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You got me dent I spent 1000 bucks to go to SGMP to lay low to get the rules changed for RS in 2013.

Then to back it up I did the same last weekend at Carolina at 3000 just in case anyone was watching.

also went 5.25 at 133 at mooresville on the pros at 3150.
I feel your pain Kevin, my trip cost me over 2000 which included my rebuild so i could make the trip. $100 TNT, $200 race entry, gate fee, & i don't even want to talk about NOS, fuel, diesel, food, beer, etc. All to slow down a tenth, 3mph, & out 1st round when my NOS cutoff in the middle of the run for a fraction of a second - which made the trip totally worth it.

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The controllers were only added to make it easier to attract more cars and like stated wont help either side go faster. Same thing with the slicks more cars more options for everyone. The class would get huge!
Your ENTIRE statement is why the swith to ULTRA, that's the point. Thanks for posting!

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I can say forced induction rules will not change for real street. I don't want to do unlimted jet for real street because the there will be no point in running both classes.
& that is a FANTASTIC point: the new 76R which has murdered RS is fast enough to run ULTRA but NOS will need unlimited to run ULTRA. However in RS, NOS gets nothing to run against the 76R. & if you look at the last 1/2 of the season. Each turbo car that has 76R on average picked up 2 tenths & a 2-3mph & are all in the 20's - NOS is NOT in the 20's on the pre-school jet they are given. RS is a boost class - so why don't you run RS Boost only, & Ultra NOS only. & then for shits & giggles or $200 let them run each other @ the end @ each race?

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Gotcha, I'm trying to decide what to do about my turbo location. Not sure if i should move it or leave it forward facing. Keeps me out of ultra unless I move it.
@ GA in Ultimate, you can just plug it off completely & they are checked to see if air will reach the inlet. But most just plug them off because the cars run multiple classes.

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Is obama making these rules?
No but i bet some on here voted for Obama, because some of these posts about NOS are completely rediculous sounding like our president.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:53 PM   #130
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Oh to heck with it just get the rules on out there. Can you atleast put some specifics on the blower rules. Btw whats the longest kots has ever went without changing the rules?
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Yeah that's what I thought.
Sure you can get a break for the blow through when you put it on gasoline and earn your non intercooled break and nitrous cars get what they need to go a 19 in 2013.
Are you saying nonintercooled E85 is faster than intercooled Q? The fastest car has a big air to air and the second fastest is air to water! Seems non intercooled weights are about right, maybe a little heavy!
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Dent, not to bust your bouble but I went 5.30 saturday With a 1.269 60. Give me your sixtey, shift 200 rpms more & you will get a pay up succa phone call.
Sounds simple enough, why haven't you done it yet? I mean, are you not even trying or what?
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:02 PM   #133
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Are you saying nonintercooled E85 is faster than intercooled Q? The fastest car has a big air to air and the second fastest is air to water! Seems non intercooled weights are about right, maybe a little heavy!
On page 5 blow thru and non intercooled were a joke, now its an advantage lol
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Just advising you not to bet, thats all
If I plan to go teens with my junk I'm sure you gangster turbo cars will easily.
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The teens Chuck has in mind arent going to be the light imanginary if kind. lol
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& that is a FANTASTIC point: the new 76R which has murdered RS is fast enough to run ULTRA but NOS will need unlimited to run ULTRA. However in RS, NOS gets nothing to run against the 76R. & if you look at the last 1/2 of the season. Each turbo car that has 76R on average picked up 2 tenths & a 2-3mph & are all in the 20's - NOS is NOT in the 20's on the pre-school jet they are given.

No offense Lisa but you have no clue when it comes to turbo cars. First of all the only turbo car to go 20's is Matt in rs trim. John and Jason can and will go just as fast with the regular old 75mm we all started with. John put my 76r on his car and it didn't pick up a thing, nothing. The turbo cars that are fast didn't get any magic parts or weight breaks. We worked on our shit, spent thousands, blew shit up, tested and tested some more to get there. We haven't been sitting still all year waiting for the rules to come to us.
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Oh to heck with it just get the rules on out there. Can you atleast put some specifics on the blower rules. Btw whats the longest kots has ever went without changing the rules?
We didn't start this discussion. Once again my inquiries in the other thread were to assure turbo cars get a fair shake in our version of Ultra. We are working on some tweeks that will allow any current RS car to join in if they are interested in a fair race. My recommendation to Blake is to leave RS rules alone forever so the turbo union members that are scared of fair competition can still have a place to race.
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We didn't start this discussion. Once again my inquiries in the other thread were to assure turbo cars get a fair shake in our version of Ultra. We are working on some tweeks that will allow any current RS car to join in if they are interested in a fair race. My recommendation to Blake is to leave RS rules alone forever so the turbo union members that are scared of fair competition can still have a place to race.
More smoke and mirrors. How much advantage do nitrous cars need to compete again? Would a tenth advantage be enough for you to finish your car and run? You already said you want to give them enough to go a teen to our .27-.29 because you "think" we can go a teen if we work at it for another year. What if one of the nitrous guys decides to work on his? Is that against the rules?
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just post the damn rules already so i can order some parts.give the nitrous guys something and lets just race !!!
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Yal better just get your dam wallets ready there is several turbo cars coming out and they aint coming for shits and giggles!!! If my shit aint at the front of the pack it will be within a race or 2!!! Heads up racing is who has the deepest pockets and who has the time to go test!!
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More smoke and mirrors. How much advantage do nitrous cars need to compete again? Would a tenth advantage be enough for you to finish your car and run? You already said you want to give them enough to go a teen to our .27-.29 because you "think" we can go a teen if we work at it for another year. What if one of the nitrous guys decides to work on his? Is that against the rules?
I don't even know why I bother to argue with you. You do a great job of arguing with yourself. I didn't say I "think" anything. I said what I know and will put money on it but you know I'm right and don't want to pay me. You are either a terrible lair or just really dumb. I haven't figured out which one yet.

Why don't you just admit you want a turbo only class and you don't mind if nitrous cars show up as long as their fastest car is slower than the slowest turbo car. Everyone here knows it and I'm OK with it. We ain't going to take away your tree house, don't worry.
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