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supera
04-09-2008, 08:56 AM
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6070035
A popular radio host and his team are off the air after some derogatory comments pertaining to Native Americans.
Listeners to G-105 (http://search.abclocal.go.com/search/results?station=wtvd&search=siteSearch&q=G-105) won't be hearing Bob Dumas (http://search.abclocal.go.com/search/results?station=wtvd&search=siteSearch&q=Bob+Dumas) and the Showgram because the radio show has been pulled following last week's comments that offended Lumbee Indians.
An apology was read over the air Tuesday morning and Vice President and General Manager Dick Harlow released this statement on the station's website. "WDCG apologizes to any listener that may have found remarks or recordings played Tuesday, April 1, 2008 during Bob and the Showgram to be offensive, derogatory or insensitive. WDCG does not condone inappropriate behavior, language or insensitive remarks."
Last week leaders of Native American organizations called for Dumas' immediate termination citing a history of derogatory comments against American Indians, African-Americans, Asians and Hispanics.
heard on the radio this morning that they said "appropriate disciplinary action has been used" or something close to that. Dont know but it is big stuff...different native american orgs have been complaining and meeting...one meeting was in Fay.
EDIT: i didnt heard the comments or the broadcast that day. I listen for like the 15 minutes drive to work
Shrt Bus
04-09-2008, 09:02 AM
That show wont end.... I think the Radio station is trying to appease the masses.... he has offended many other racial groups without being suspened. I didnt get to hear what he or the others said .. does anybody know???
A 2 M
04-09-2008, 09:04 AM
People need to GTFOver it. Shit is getting STUPID in this country.
wyndzer
04-09-2008, 09:05 AM
They have an intern that is marrying an indian and he something to the effect of having a teepee warming party and I think doing some scalping?
niSSan
04-09-2008, 09:09 AM
there's no way they can fire bob or cancel the show...they'll loose too much of their audience, including me. and here's a thought for all the ppl that were offended, get the hell over it, die miseribly, or change the station....its that simple. welcome to life
supera
04-09-2008, 09:11 AM
yeah...number one radio show in this part of the state. Dont think it will end either but they definitely pulled it for at least a few days.
Dr. Rockwell
04-09-2008, 09:11 AM
That show sucks and I don't think those rednecks are too funny.
Cancel away.
--Chest
supera
04-09-2008, 09:13 AM
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/news/article.asp?docKey=600-200804041710KRTRIB__BUSNEWS_61106-5VVK3I0TG435D4DE0JIMM563HL×tamp=04/04/2008%205:10%20PM%20ET&headline=Lumbees%20upset%20over%20radio%20program% 20comments%20%5BThe%20Fayetteville%20Observer%2C%2 0N.C.%5D&docSource=Knight%20Ridder/Tribune&provider=ACQUIREMEDIA&symbol=NWS
Apr. 4--Lumbees and other American Indians in North Carolina are outraged over what they consider racist comments made Tuesday on Raleigh radio station WDCG.
Clear Channel Communications owns the station, which is more widely known as "G105."
The controversial comments came during "Bob and the Showgram," a popular morning program hosted by longtime Raleigh radio air personality Bob Dumas.
Among other comments, members of the "Showgram" team called Indians indolent. Dumas said to his listeners, "This is the God's honest truth. You can look at the statistics -- Indians are lazy."
Greg Richardson, executive director of the N.C. Commission of Indian Affairs, said his office had been bombarded by e-mails and telephone calls complaining about the issue.
"It's unlike anything I've seen really in terms of a disagreement with the way G105 handled this," he said.
Dick Harlow, general manager of WDCG, said he was not making a comment Friday. He said Dumas would not be discussing the matter with the media, either.
A statement was posted Friday afternoon on the bobandtheshowgram.com Web site:
"WDCG apologizes to any listener that may have found remarks or recordings played Tuesday, April 1st, 2008 during Bob and the Showgram to be offensive, derogatory or insensitive. WDCG does not condone inappropriate behavior, language or insensitive remarks."
The Lumbees, in particular, were singled out in the 15-minute exchange that opened Tuesday's show.
"They were questioning our Indian heritage," Richardson said.
Morgan Brittany Hunt works with the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina. She talks to teens on the consequences of smoking cigarettes.
"It hurts my feelings," she said. "I'm 25 and trying to do something positive. We have doctors, we have lawyers, we have businessmen. We may have people who don't have their four-year degree, but who get up and work hard to provide for their family. I was really upset."
The exchange began when a white college intern on the show said she was marrying a Lumbee. "Hey, white girl. After you get married, are you going to have a teepee-warming party," someone quipped. "I could give you a pelt or something."
Richardson called the show's comments inflammatory.
"I think simply, it's very sad," he said, "that you would have a radio (station) like that putting that kind of information out on the air. I wonder if they understand how inflammatory those remarks can be."
found that, that tells a little of what he said. that wasnt that bad. Bob makes fun of every race and type of person equally. Kind of like me...im not racist or anything...i hate all people equally
Suspended for 3 days...
personally the showgram gets on my nerves....
and g105 plays the same songs allll day long
supera
04-09-2008, 09:22 AM
found this...guess that answers it
As of April 9th, the show's cast were suspended, and are expected to return on April 14th.
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 09:34 AM
found this...guess that answers it
Yeah thats what was said on the radio this morning but i was listening that day and it wont that bad yeah he should watch was he says but he does comment on everybody equally even white rednecks like himself so i think people should shut the hell up and if you dont want to here him turn the damn station
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 09:35 AM
g105 plays the same songs allll day long
That is the damn truth
Foxbody Jess
04-09-2008, 09:38 AM
I hate pussies that cant take a joke... I agree, if you cant handle the joke, DONT LISTEN TO IT. Turn the fucking radio off.
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 09:40 AM
I hate pussies that cant take a joke... I agree, if you cant handle the joke, DONT LISTEN TO IT. Turn the fucking radio off.
Great minds think alike once again:)
Dragline
04-09-2008, 10:13 AM
People need to GTFOver it. Shit is getting STUPID in this country.
I agree... I personaly couldn't care less about that show though. Opie & Anthony on XM satellite FTW. They don't care who they offend.
dmw319
04-09-2008, 10:19 AM
i live with the lumbees down here in pembroke and i bunch of them were talking about this and none of them seemed to care at all. must just have been the uptight ones i guess.
ChrisR
04-09-2008, 10:20 AM
I agree... I personaly couldn't care less about that show though. Opie & Anthony on XM satellite FTW. They don't care who they offend.
Part of the reason I got satelite radio was because of all the shitty morning shows. I hate riding to work in the morning listening to nothing but fucking commercials.
It is a shame that no one can take a joke..
but that whole station sucks donkey balls!
The Funkmeister
04-09-2008, 10:24 AM
Not a fan of G105 but the listeners need to get the sand out of their pussies.:gaymon:
Eskimo
04-09-2008, 10:37 AM
Agreed.. the very few are raising a big fucking stink over next to nothing..
Oddly enough, there's a banner ad for "Native American gospel ringtones" above where I'm typing right now.. :fail:
While watching the news, I saw they were interviewing some representative of the lumbee tribe, and in the background, looked to be an american flag wrapped and bound like you'd do for some kind of transport so it couldn't hang naturally... but no one will every say anything about his ass not displaying the flag properly
P.S. what a bunch of nappy-headed ho's.. :P
A 2 M
04-09-2008, 10:41 AM
The Lumbee are just pissed b/c they 'belong' to a made-up tribe. :lmao:
The fact that people are put out of work over something this trivial is more despicable than any racial connotation made or percieved.
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04-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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Redneckvtek
04-09-2008, 11:00 AM
yeah this shit sucks
the showgram has made fun of EVERYONE and everything out there.. this isnt the first time this has happened and i doubt it is the last
i like it because they say shit like this and it gets people riled up, it will be extra funny when they come back on-air..
Red01WS6
04-09-2008, 11:02 AM
Boo freaking hoo. People need to get a grip and stop being so childish. It's called freedom of speech.
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Red01WS6
04-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Not to mention they are "American Indians" not "Native Americans."
"Native Americans" would encompass anyone born in the USA.
dlbrando
04-09-2008, 11:24 AM
that show sucks anyway. All the morning shows do for that matter. I miss the bob and tom show.
BIZZY
04-09-2008, 11:30 AM
Not to mention they are "American Indians" not "Native Americans."
"Native Americans" would encompass anyone born in the USA.
Both terms are used and are correct.
Princessinajeep
04-09-2008, 11:36 AM
On Monday morning Bob was talking about if someones dog craps in your driveway you dont immediently call the dog catcher to come get the dog, you go talk to the owner of the dog instead. So he said that if he crapped in someones driveway the appropriate adult thing to do would be to come talk to Bob before blowing it out of proportion, which I personally think this person(s) did.
I listen to the show almost every morning, i think its funny, but at times I disagree with comments made. Its part of life. People need to stop being such pussies about it and act like adults and talk to the person first hand and come to an agreement and understanding about the problem.
Tommygunn
04-09-2008, 11:46 AM
that show is funny as shit. he picks on all race but leave it to one person to get sand in their pussy to try to ruin it. im so sick of people getting upset when somebody talks about the way stuff really is. hope the show comes back on...it would kill g105 if it didn't
but i really like when bob did the "white house, black house" thing. that was funny as hell. and picked on BOTH races and people were calling in mad
Red01WS6
04-09-2008, 11:46 AM
Both terms are used and are correct.
My issue is them claiming they are the only Native Americans - assigning the term to them and them alone.
Didn't mean to hijack.
I don't ever listen to Bob anymore, as he bores me and the music blows.
lt1 kenobi
04-09-2008, 11:52 AM
That radio show is pretty stupid most of the time.. and the music does suck dick... I agree w/Chest.. cancel it. Who cares.
Dr. Rockwell
04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
I'd bang the chick. I saw some brief pics of her, she looked decent. Any one have nudes of this ho?
--Chest
1976CobraII
04-09-2008, 12:15 PM
The show rocks. I dont care how long they are suspened, I will continue listening when they come back. I think it was just a big meeting and they all agreed to please them they would make it look like they were in trouble.
msydnor
04-09-2008, 12:22 PM
Never heard of the show. I wonder if Lumbees are all lazy? I never really had any dealings with them.
supera
04-09-2008, 12:26 PM
hmmm...some ppl say show blows and some like it. I like the show...especially now that they have woman that will actually do stuff instead of Amy who was a pussy.
DSM Turbos
04-09-2008, 12:29 PM
The show is the best of the shit that is on the radio in the AM. The best of a big pile of shit, which still means it sucks. I listen to it most morning because there is nothing else to listen to. I can't wait to get sat radio in the truck.
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 12:34 PM
I like to listen to the show so pretty much people who get offended or whatever you want to call need to find something else to listen to
1slowTA
04-09-2008, 12:38 PM
I listen to the show most mornings on my ~1 hour commute. It's not bad when compared to everything else that is on. I don't care for the show that is on when I am driving home and I think it was on this morning before I changed the station. I don't even have a cd player in the buick and haven't joined the 21st century and gotten an Ipod yet either so it's the onlt thing on.
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 12:40 PM
I don't even have a cd player in the buick and haven't joined the 21st century and gotten an Ipod yet either so it's the onlt thing on.
thats whats up
The Funkmeister
04-09-2008, 12:40 PM
Two guys named Chris from Greensboro (92.3) FTW. It is the only good AM talk show in this area. If you have never heard them, try em out.
rickyw
04-09-2008, 02:29 PM
to much damn political correctness these days.....
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 02:31 PM
to much damn political correctness these days.....
Aight that the damn truth
1slowTA
04-09-2008, 02:34 PM
thats whats up
I know... If I want to listen to a cd I have to drive the TA to work, or the wife's saturn :gaymon:...lol
Bananaman
04-09-2008, 02:37 PM
I listen to Bob in the morning ,Then switch over to XM at 10:00 AM
AmericanCobra
04-09-2008, 02:38 PM
I know... If I want to listen to a cd I have to drive the TA to work, or the wife's saturn :gaymon:...lol
HAHAHA well it could be worse i guess and the ole saturn is prolly good on gas
msydnor
04-09-2008, 02:48 PM
Two guys named Chris from Greensboro (92.3) FTW. It is the only good AM talk show in this area. If you have never heard them, try em out.
I guess that's debatable. I listen to the Russ Par Morning Show...:woot:
Stangsgrl
04-09-2008, 03:44 PM
personally the showgram gets on my nerves....
and g105 plays the same songs allll day long
Agree
I hate pussies that cant take a joke... I agree, if you cant handle the joke, DONT LISTEN TO IT. Turn the fucking radio off.
I have to listen to something in my car, and since my cd player is broken, I'm pretty close to going insane trying to find stuff to listen to. The radio stations suck in Raleigh. I hope to have a new cd player next week finally. In the mornings...I don't even go to G105 in my search for something to listen to.
About the thread...freedom of speech IMO. Sure some people can cross the line, but he makes fun of everyone from what I've been told.
I like rock 103.5 outta fayettville....
and i forget the station out of wilmington area...it kicks ass...besides that im really thinking bout sat. radio....squizz and octane is the shit
edit...105.5 outta jacksonville....i pick it up about 15 mins after i cross over 95
RichardCranium
04-09-2008, 03:53 PM
I think we can all agree that ALL of our local radio stations suck major ass. 105 and 96.1 both play the shit out of the same damn songs every day. I've been streaming a radio station out of Atlanta at work lately, they are awesome.......www.96rock.com
As for the comments about Indians.......unbelievable. Suck it up, it was a damn joke. If you are going to get asshurt over a joke like that, then go back to where you came from.
Oh wait.......... :)
XCELR8R
04-09-2008, 03:55 PM
What sucks is this.....People that did get offended by what was said and happen to be clients of Clear Channel (not just G105) are pulling all their
advertisement. So the sales rep's wallet it getting hit because of this not Bob's. You can damn guarantee that the suspension is NOT without pay.
I listen to the showgram and find it entertaining most mornings but just because Bob talks/makes fun of all races....does that make it right?
69boo307
04-09-2008, 05:24 PM
Those stupid morning shows are a waste of bandwidth anyway, I wouldn't miss that stupid shit one bit.
Kevin91FB
04-09-2008, 05:29 PM
I usually listen to them just because everything else sucks too.. but then again, I'd be just as content listening to my engine.. I laugh at them sometimes, but I wouldn't miss them...
and about the suspension.... sounds a lot like Howard Stern in his better days..
+1 on the too much political correctness.. hopefully it's just a trend that will live a short life...
hpierce301
04-09-2008, 06:28 PM
Never heard of the show. I wonder if Lumbees are all lazy? I never really had any dealings with them.
I'm Lumbee and I think we met a long time ago, you had a couch for sale? and talked a bit at at dyno day at RPM? but I could be wrong.
and Hell No, Lumbees are not lazy. probably hung half the sheetrock in the state and/or did a lot of the framing.
Kelvin Sampson formerly of Indiana is Lum, and the former Ms NC Rebecca Revels is too.
I don't care for the Showgram but it is the only thing worth listening to around here. I used to listen to Bob and Tom before they changed the station. And I agree with a lot of folks on this thread, but when does it become harmful? I just think it's radio, not a freaking authority figure or anything. People should not argue with idiots like Bob, because folks won't know who is dumber. Live and let live.
saleen331
04-09-2008, 06:28 PM
bob and tom were the shit. bob and the showgram is decent at best, luckily my commute is only 5 min long.
but no matter how bad something sucks or does not suck, doesn't common sense say if you don't like what you are hearing to fucking change the station????????
msydnor
04-09-2008, 06:54 PM
I'm Lumbee and I think we met a long time ago, you had a couch for sale? and talked a bit at at dyno day at RPM? but I could be wrong.
and Hell No, Lumbees are not lazy. probably hung half the sheetrock in the state and/or did a lot of the framing.
Kelvin Sampson formerly of Indiana is Lum, and the former Ms NC Rebecca Revels is too.
I don't care for the Showgram but it is the only thing worth listening to around here. I used to listen to Bob and Tom before they changed the station. And I agree with a lot of folks on this thread, but when does it become harmful? I just think it's radio, not a freaking authority figure or anything. People should not argue with idiots like Bob, because folks won't know who is dumber. Live and let live.
Yes I believe you are correct. We have meet on a few occasions. And I agree with everything you just stated. FWIW, you seemed like a pretty cool person
snakecharmer
04-09-2008, 07:01 PM
There's two very simple solutions to trash like G105. Sirrius and XM. I don't even know if FM on the Z06 works because I have not used it one time. I will NEVER listen to FM ever again.
Dragline
04-09-2008, 07:05 PM
There's two very simple solutions to trash like G105. Sirrius and XM. I don't even know if FM on the Z06 works because I have not used it one time.
This man speaks the truth. I havent listened to FM radio since I got XM a little over a year ago. If you like funny morning shows/talk shows, XM 202 FTW!!!
BDubLS1
04-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Another vote for XM here.
I hate listening to talk radio. My commute in the morning is filled with nothing but music from XM.
I can't hardly bare to listen to FM anymore in other people's cars because of all the talking and commercials.
Rossi
04-09-2008, 07:39 PM
that show will never go anywhere. I can count how many times it has been "getting canceled" for their actions, and never does.
I've meet bob in person and the funny thing is he isn't like that in person. He will admit that its all a put on for the show. It like anything, drama attracts an audience.
And yes g105 does suck all together.
CAMELEON
04-09-2008, 08:07 PM
There's two very simple solutions to trash like G105. Sirrius and XM. I don't even know if FM on the Z06 works because I have not used it one time. I will NEVER listen to FM ever again.
Aha .... now I have a solution ...... let me borrow the Z so I don't have to listen to the crappy local stations:stick:
snakecharmer
04-09-2008, 08:14 PM
Lmao.
spray'n mach 1
04-09-2008, 08:26 PM
bob is the man, but I can't get the station anymore because I have moved......
blackLS1
04-09-2008, 09:55 PM
G105 sux. The Lums I know aren't lazy. Far from it. My question is how can someone work on the radio and know the backlash from making dumb remarks and still continue to do so.
Rossi
04-09-2008, 09:58 PM
G105 sux. The Lums I know aren't lazy. Far from it. My question is how can someone work on the radio and know the backlash from making dumb remarks and still continue to do so.
they do it to get a rise out of people, its what gets listeners.
Bullitt5239
04-09-2008, 10:07 PM
I listen to them in the morning usually just because as everyone else has stated...everything else sucks. As soon as the show is over at 10am I turn the IPOD on. Usually I am at work by 8 though so I don't normally get to listen that long but it sucked having to listen to the other stations this morning.
1silverstang
04-09-2008, 10:14 PM
I don't remember how it all started, but they were arguing on what song to play that morning for the show. I don't remember some of the request but I know Bob got pissed and said this is America so I am going to play the only song there is to suit this situation which was God bless the USA by Lee Greenwood. He started getting the calls in after that and harassed.
Rossi
04-09-2008, 10:15 PM
true most everything in the morning is trash. i liked it when 96 rock didn't have a morning show and just played music.
smbstyle
04-09-2008, 10:24 PM
They need to stream in Elliot in the Morning from DC 101 (101.1 up in MD/DC/VA area), it is the best, funniest radio show on FM. Anyone that's been up there heard it? I used to listen to that every single morning, and seriously would sit in the garage for like an hour just listening to it on the car radio. About a year ago they had some indy car driver Helio Castonaevis (sp?) come in and one of the guys thought i'd be fun to race him around the DC beltway, so they set up this huge beltway race with Hummers they rented, it was funny as hell. They do all kinds of cool shit. All the radio shows around here blow ass.
SLOWBRA
04-09-2008, 10:43 PM
I listen to the showgram every morning and XM on the way home.. People are way to sensitive about shit these days. Bob talks shit about everyone and every race... Some shit he says isn't that funny, but it is meant in fun and to stir the pot..... anyway..... I won't renew my XM contract after this year cause I just don't listen to enough music to justify 12-14 bucks a month.
Shawn
KB2.6_Lightning
04-09-2008, 11:31 PM
You know what pisses me off..... go on any morning show on a predominantly black radio station i.e "The Tom Joyner Show" or "Russ Parr Morning Show" and they are ALWAYS talking about "white people this, and white people that" But the minute a "white" DJ makes comments about a black person or another race, ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE! :blah: Too many hypocrites out there!!!
smbstyle
04-09-2008, 11:36 PM
You know what pisses me off..... go on any morning show on a predominantly black radio station i.e "The Tom Joyner Show" or "Russ Parr Morning Show" and they are ALWAYS talking about "white people this, and white people that" But the minute a "white" DJ makes comments about a black person or another race, ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE! :blah: Too many hypocrites out there!!!
Seriously... On campus here it's bad, at least in my apartment complex. Even tonight, there was this big black student group thing called the Pan Afrikan Festival (which got broken up by the cops last week, RPD and WCSO got called in and were spraying pepper spray like it was confetti), and my girlfriend had to walk through this group of black guys to get to her classroom, and some black guys said "baby girl youre in the wrong place at the wrong time"... tell me that isn't racist. I'm sure if some white guys called out some black girl for walking through their white party all hell would break loose and would make the morning paper.
Tommygunn
04-09-2008, 11:42 PM
i like whoooopie in the morning on 93.9!:headbang:
KB2.6_Lightning
04-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Seriously... On campus here it's bad, at least in my apartment complex. Even tonight, there was this big black student group thing called the Pan Afrikan Festival (which got broken up by the cops last week, RPD and WCSO got called in and were spraying pepper spray like it was confetti), and my girlfriend had to walk through this group of black guys to get to her classroom, and some black guys said "baby girl youre in the wrong place at the wrong time"... tell me that isn't racist. I'm sure if some white guys called out some black girl for walking through their white party all hell would break loose and would make the morning paper.
Exactly, I rest my case!
AmericanCobra
04-10-2008, 07:07 AM
i like whoooopie in the morning on 93.9!:headbang:
WOOP FTW!!!! :liar:
69boo307
04-10-2008, 07:35 AM
There's two very simple solutions to trash like G105. Sirrius and XM. I don't even know if FM on the Z06 works because I have not used it one time. I will NEVER listen to FM ever again.
I listen to sirius or a CD, I havn't listened to the garbage on FM in several years.
msydnor
04-10-2008, 07:46 AM
You know what pisses me off..... go on any morning show on a predominantly black radio station i.e "The Tom Joyner Show" or "Russ Parr Morning Show" and they are ALWAYS talking about "white people this, and white people that" But the minute a "white" DJ makes comments about a black person or another race, ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE! :blah: Too many hypocrites out there!!!
I was wondering how long it would be before this came up. It is a valid aurgument.
xtreme lowpro
04-10-2008, 08:09 AM
i think it bull shit they got suspended. i listen to the show every once in a while but seriously lost alot of insterest a few years back. i feel like they offend equally and dont single anyone else. i think the best thing they ever did was have people call in and call out there own race. probably one of the funnier shows i ever heard.
RealDeal
04-10-2008, 08:51 AM
People need to get over the general "walk of life" jokes, but I think it goes a little too far when a radio show attacks a specific younger girl like this:
"Hey, white girl. After you get married, are you going to have a teepee-warming party," someone quipped. "I could give you a pelt or something"
Everybody knows that there's a line between making fun of someone being funny and "going too far." Example: "White people can't play sports" is funny. "Jimmy can't dunk because his dad died when he was 5" is not funny - it's going too far.
I think getting bent out of shape about the "Indians are lazy" thing is something people can get over - it's NOT a big deal. People are WAY too sensitive these days. Shows like Russ Par I've listened to as a white guy and laughed at - some stereotypes are just plain funny, be it about white, black, red, or yellow.
I just think targeting a specific young girl about her upcoming marriage is going too far. I still don't think the show should be cancelled - a heartfelt public apology on the air would be more appropriate, IMO, and life (as well as the show) goes on.
I still think Carlos Mencia and Dave Chappel had hilarious shows - they made fun of everybody in general - they didn't parade one person on the air and ream them with personal jokes. That's where I think the difference is.
My 3 cents :)
screamin94Z
04-10-2008, 09:58 AM
Everybody knows that there's a line between making fun of someone being funny and "going too far." Example: "White people can't play sports" is funny. "Jimmy can't dunk because his dad died when he was 5" is not funny - it's going too far.
what in the hell are you talking about? did that make sense to you when you typed it?
i make fun of all races with people i know won't get bent out of shape about it. am i racist? no. why is it funny? because it's SO taboo to make racial jokes and that is what makes it makes it funny.
RealDeal
04-10-2008, 01:46 PM
What I'm talking about is there is a big difference between making fun about a race in general, which can be funny (generalizations don't carry much sting, if any, because they're not aimed at a specific person), and ganging up to make fun of a specific individual maliciously on the air about their future spouse - a co-worker at that. That's what I don't really agree with being OK - it's going too far.
Please read slower next time. Your post really had nothing to do with anything I said...
screamin94Z
04-10-2008, 01:56 PM
What I'm talking about is there is a big difference between making fun about a race in general, which can be funny (generalizations don't carry much sting, if any, because they're not aimed at a specific person), and ganging up to make fun of a specific individual maliciously on the air about their future spouse - a co-worker at that. That's what I don't really agree with being OK - it's going too far.
Please read slower next time. Your post really had nothing to do with anything I said...
please comprehend that i wasn't responding to anything but what i quoted. i then used one of these
a space to show that i was starting a new thought. one of my own. your "kid can't dunk because his dad's dead" bullshit didn't make any damn sense. i didn't disagree with what you said.
msydnor
04-10-2008, 01:58 PM
What I'm talking about is there is a big difference between making fun about a race in general, which can be funny (generalizations don't carry much sting, if any, because they're not aimed at a specific person), and ganging up to make fun of a specific individual maliciously on the air about their future spouse - a co-worker at that. That's what I don't really agree with being OK - it's going too far.
Please read slower next time. Your post really had nothing to do with anything I said...
In see your point but tend to disagree. Example, when Imus (SP) called the basketball team nappy headed hoes, he didn't specify which girls. Of couse it didn't take a genuious to figure out who he was talking about. But, if he had made a general comment about nappy head hoes I would bet he would have caught the same flack. People pick and chose what offends them from on day to the next. Today it's one thing, tomorrow it's another. I'm a change the station kind of guy.
Bananaman
04-10-2008, 02:00 PM
In see your point but tend to disagree. Example, when Imus (SP) called the basketball team nappy headed hoes, he didn't specify which girls. Of couse it didn't take a genuious to figure out who he was talking about. But, if he had made a general comment about nappy head hoes I would bet he would have caught the same flack. People pick and chose what offends them from on day to the next. Today it's one thing, tomorrow it's another. I'm a change the station kind of guy.
Thank you on that statement.
RealDeal
04-10-2008, 02:03 PM
your "kid can't dunk because his dad's dead" bullshit didn't make any damn sense. i didn't disagree with what you said.
Aaaahhhh. Well, insert any person-specific harsh joke in place of kid/dunk/dad whatever :) I just figured if a certain kid couldn't dunk and his dad happened to die when he was 5, a mean kid might say that because his dad wasn't around to... yada yada yada. I didn't think very long about that example, so I'm sure better ones exist.
RealDeal
04-10-2008, 02:18 PM
In see your point but tend to disagree. Example, when Imus (SP) called the basketball team nappy headed hoes, he didn't specify which girls. Of couse it didn't take a genuious to figure out who he was talking about. But, if he had made a general comment about nappy head hoes I would bet he would have caught the same flack. People pick and chose what offends them from on day to the next. Today it's one thing, tomorrow it's another. I'm a change the station kind of guy.
Well yea, Imus didn't specify which girls, but he didn't really need to because the joke was specific in itself, and was applicable to a certain team and certain members of the team. So IMO, it still qualifies as kinda harsh and not called for because it's person specific. I still don't think what he said is harsher than the original post case, because that very negative joke is aimed directly at one person.
I guess, for example, it's different for me to watch Carlos Mencia and laugh when he makes fun of white rednecks, but it's a little different if I took a trip to Boston and when everybody heard my accent, they started laughing, calling me an inbred ignorant etc.... One is going to be harder to take than the other, is all I'm saying.
msydnor
04-10-2008, 02:40 PM
Well yea, Imus didn't specify which girls, but he didn't really need to because the joke was specific in itself, and was applicable to a certain team and certain members of the team. So IMO, it still qualifies as kinda harsh and not called for because it's person specific. I still don't think what he said is harsher than the original post case, because that very negative joke is aimed directly at one person.
I guess, for example, it's different for me to watch Carlos Mencia and laugh when he makes fun of white rednecks, but it's a little different if I took a trip to Boston and when everybody heard my accent, they started laughing, calling me an inbred ignorant etc.... One is going to be harder to take than the other, is all I'm saying.
I do see your point, but stand firm on my opinion that it doesn't matter how general or specific, people pick and choose from day to day. I think people in general in our country is a bit too "thin skinned" If I was talking to the guy on the show for instance and he made comments that I thought were a bit off color, I'd handle it between the two of us. A simple "hey, that shit aint funny and I don't appreitiate it" would have been enough for me. Unless he wouldn't stop after I voiced my displeasure with him it would be a done deal. Cancelling the program?... I don't see the need, don't listen if you don't like it. I didn't think Imus should have been cancelled for the comments he made. In actuality, he wasn't, he got cut because it was costing them too much to keep him.
RealDeal
04-10-2008, 03:20 PM
I do see your point, but stand firm on my opinion that it doesn't matter how general or specific, people pick and choose from day to day.
I hear ya :)
Redline165
04-10-2008, 06:53 PM
oh yea... well, i can hit bobs house with a rock from my house. (really)
A 2 M
04-10-2008, 06:55 PM
oh yea... well, i can hit bobs house with a rock from my house. (really)
What about a cell phone? Or was that in the wrong direction? :lmao:
KB2.6_Lightning
04-10-2008, 06:59 PM
I was wondering how long it would be before this came up. It is a valid aurgument.
No offense to you my friend..... you are actually pretty neutral when topics come up like this. Others would be like "oh I know you didn't" haha
realaxed83
04-10-2008, 07:13 PM
what in the hell are you talking about? did that make sense to you when you typed it?
i make fun of all races with people i know won't get bent out of shape about it. am i racist? no. why is it funny? because it's SO taboo to make racial jokes and that is what makes it makes it funny.
Damn, I understood the first guy but I just had to read this four times to figure out what you were saying. Did that make sense to you when you typed it?
Just messing with you man:redx:
DynoQueen
04-10-2008, 07:15 PM
oh yea... well, i can hit bobs house with a rock from my house. (really)
what? Where does he live?
Oh, and this is why I just hate people in general.
Princessinajeep
04-10-2008, 07:17 PM
IMO, when issues like this come up it gives people reason to put blame and irresponsibility on other people. You dont see it on HPJ, but on GOLO, which is part of WRAL where you can reply to stories posted, you would be amazed at some of the excuses.
One lady said her child would not get the opportunity to know their heritage because of the comments made on G105, when in reality, if the child lost that opportunity, the parents would be mostly to blame. It is the parents responsibilty to teach THEIR children right/wrong/morals/etc.
Or comments posted on WRAL by Indians like "Lumbees are very proud of their heritage, as are most Native Americans. Caucasians will never understand such criticism because many don't know of their heritage." or "we are Americans and we've been wronged way before now after all Christopher Clombus did not discover America but he took credit for it, white people did not know how to farm but again they took credit for it. The land was once a beautiful place and there were once happy people here now look because of ignorance the worlds ozone is closing talk about it" <---- seems like a lot of hypocrites from a group who is upset about "racist" comments, just like the ones said from the same group of people.
Everybody, including Lumbee indians have been racist at some part during their life. Everybody has been made fun of. People act like this is a suprise when its the world we live in and have been living in. If someone wants a change, they need to do a lil bit more than whine and cry to the media and demand $50,000 for a predominately indian college, which is OUTRAGOUS!!
falcon64
04-10-2008, 07:29 PM
whiny people suck this is america and i can say what i want so can anybody else damn
Redline165
04-10-2008, 07:31 PM
what? Where does he live?
Oh, and this is why I just hate people in general.
directly behind me... haha I never told you that?
DynoQueen
04-10-2008, 07:34 PM
directly behind me... haha I never told you that?
no asshole
Princessinajeep
04-10-2008, 07:35 PM
no asshole
stop hijacking the thread. this is not about where bob lives butthole
slither
04-11-2008, 02:46 AM
Boo fucking hoo. People need to learn to laugh at themselves more. The show will continue because it was about indians and not a diff race. Im indian and the shit didnt offend me. Why would I get offended by someone mentioning scalping? Mother fuckers used to do it! Not like they were wrong or making shit up, indians used to scalp fucking people.
BTW, I too think the show sucks
BoltonGTTT
04-11-2008, 05:10 PM
lol....... I dint know it was this serious...... I hope they dont get taken off.... they got me through so many boring college mornings.
A 2 M
04-11-2008, 05:19 PM
stop hijacking the thread. this is not about where bob lives butthole
The whip crack echos like thunder
Starz T/A 17
04-11-2008, 05:21 PM
I never really liked them anyways, Bob always seemed like a dick, I really dont understand why radio stations cant just play music in the mourning
LT1 in a 95 9c1
04-11-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm with George Carlin on this one. Words are harmless- intent hurts.
Tommygunn
04-12-2008, 01:18 AM
I really dont understand why radio stations cant just play music in the mourning
+1
Redline165
04-12-2008, 02:18 AM
no asshole
oh... well, hey drew... bobs property is connected to my property :) directly behind my house :D
85camaroman
04-12-2008, 10:37 AM
their morning show is the gayness, i hope it gets shut down.
WANARUNM
04-13-2008, 12:27 AM
Hey I thouhgt it was funny !!
P-Diddy
04-13-2008, 06:49 PM
oh... well, hey drew... bobs property is connected to my property :) directly behind my house :D
chapel ridge right....i always heard he live near me in there but didnt believe it
Redline165
04-13-2008, 08:17 PM
chapel ridge right....i always heard he live near me in there but didnt believe it
yep, got a big gate at his driveway, i live right off kelly between 64 and olive chapel
NC_EB_Z06
04-15-2008, 01:55 PM
apparently the suspension is over with it as they were back on the air yesterday
msydnor
04-15-2008, 01:58 PM
apparently the suspension is over with it as they were back on the air yesterday
Unless major sponsors have an issue with them they will stay on the air. People can complain until they are blue in the face, unless the station starts to loose money and/or sponors it wont make any difference. Only reason Imus was pulled was about the money.
Wolfpack
04-15-2008, 02:24 PM
I'm with George Carlin on this one. Words are harmless- intent hurts.
Indeed. (I'd type +one, but... you know.)
DynoQueen
04-15-2008, 02:28 PM
they made up a song about how they were back. it made me lol
AmericanCobra
04-15-2008, 02:42 PM
Yeah the song was funny i for one and glad they are back though bob can be a dick sometimes he still says on the radio what a lot of people are scared to say just because he could give a damn less
BoltonGTTT
04-15-2008, 02:45 PM
I am gay.I am gay.I am gay.
lol
JUGRNAUT
04-15-2008, 02:55 PM
Imus shouldnt have been fired either.
I hope those of you in here saying "big deal" will agree with the above statement (i do). because I saw alot of haters in the imus thread and not too many here.
JUGRNAUT
04-15-2008, 02:56 PM
I never really liked them anyways, Bob always seemed like a dick, I really dont understand why radio stations cant just play music in the mourning
Because you're the only one complaining, and they can't understand what about because you dont know how to spell "morning."
PS jessica is an even FATTER whore now.
thnx.
-Dom
281cammer
04-15-2008, 03:02 PM
I really dont understand why radio stations cant just play music in the mourning
I agree 100%!!!! Thats why I only listen to 96.5 The Drive in the morning(nothing but music), cause I could give two damnit's about listening to a talk show.
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